Talking in circles

When you see a video circulating the interwebs like the one above featuring the like of Mark Driscol, James MacDonald, and Mark Dever one expects some good theological debate concerning multisite video venues.

But that is not what you get. As one commenter on David Finch’s blog said, “you get Denver trying to have a serious discussion and the other two cutting him off so they could talk about how successful they were.”

This is an inherent problem in the whole video venue conversation. Most just talk in circles.
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I have even seen this verse used as a biblical basis for multisite/video venues:
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who are elect exiles of the dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, (1 Peter 1:1 ESV) Really? The dispersion of Christians because of persecution to whom Peter is writing is a basis for multisite/video venue churches? I think not!

[/one_half] However, one voice, David Finch, makes a compelling argument as to “Why Video Venue is the Antithesis of Missional.”

I have summarized his points below, but I would encourage you to read the entire post.

1. Video venues decontextualize preaching

Fitch writes, [Video preaching is] “detached from real life. It is one step further towards preaching becoming commodified, consumerized, a product distributed to be used by those who come seeking a better Christian life. Once this happens, “the Word” becomes a user-friendly item and it by definition is no longer the Word of the God.”

Once I was asked by a well meaning visitor to our church, “Why didn’t you give an invitation at the end of your sermon?” She came from a tradition where this is a regular and expected occurrence where the preacher would invite people to “walk the isle” and “be saved.” She felt like something was missing and I had not given people the opportunity to respond appropriately (even though we had a lengthy time of response). I explained to her that I knew everyone in the congregation that day intimately and exactly where they were spiritually. So, there was really no need for an “invitation” because when we gather on Sunday it is not detached from the rest of life.

2. Video venues draw crowds to a celebrity and this attraction works against (as opposed to helps) the formation of church in mission.

This may be the most important point. Fitch goes on the say, “what is happening, more often than not, is merely the shifting of consumers into churches wanting more accessible/engaging, entertaining information/teaching. When pastor Driscoll says that this church in Albuquerque went from 200 to 500 in few six months with him videoing, does he think suddenly people who had never heard him wanted to suddenly hear the gospel? Does he think people did not come from other churches. So let’s just be honest here eh? This isn’t evangelism, or building churches this is warehousing Christians who want “better” teaching (whatever that might mean?) This is churches playing musical chairs.

I see this happening all over the place and not just with video venues. A new church is “planted” and creates some buzz in the local community. Then the big day arrives for the 1st service and 300 people show up. No offense, but how many out of that 300 are people who have never or very, very rarely ever attended a church service? I would say very, very few.

There is nothing wrong or unbiblical with mobilizing lapsed Christians, but when this is called evangelism and mission then there is a problem. When Christians simply move from one church to another because the Sunday show is better, then there is a problem.

3. Mission requires more than words. Video venues intensify the dependence upon words.

Fitch continues with, “Somehow video venue can be justified as missional. And what gets overlooked is that the gospel requires contextualized incarnation in post Christendom in order to be interpreted (completely). It requires the embodiment of redemption. It requires contextualization!!”

The bottom line is this: A lot of the time the church just ends up preaching to herself.

Grace in the midst of the fall

The primary function of Genesis 3 within the whole of the creation narrative is for the reader to understand God’s punishment as constructive rather than destructive. Throughout the Old Testament, punishment is never simply the act of a capricious God who sends thunderbolts from heaven whenever man is disobedient. His purpose is to bring about in man a recognition of the situation he is in. Punishment because of disobedience, yes, but for the purpose of moving man toward the goal of restoration and ultimately redemption.

God’s grace goes all the way back to Gen 3, for God did not discard this fallen humanity.

God could of wiped humanity from the face of His creation right there and been content with the world he had made. But as Augustine observed, “God judged it better to bring good out of evil than to suffer no evil at all.”

Although there is no time frame given as to how long Adam and Eve resided in the garden in their state of innocence and enjoyed the presence of God, the text, however, suggests that they were accustomed to God’s daily presence in the garden and now they hid from whom they had previously welcomed.

Yet, in spite of man and woman’s disobedience God pursues them and questions the couple rather than leaving them on their own.

God’s first question to Adam, “Where are you?” proves two things:

(1) that man was lost.
(2) that God had come to seek.

Man was lost; but God had come down to look for him –to bring him out of his hiding place. This is grace. To create man out of the dust was power; but to seek man in his lost estate was grace.

The object of God’s inquest is to elicit a full confession from the man and woman. In other words, the questions in this section are not to gain information, but to give opportunity for self-examination and acknowledgment of guilt.

In the Garden, God has come to man in his guilt; he has not and does not forsake him.

Despair in Genesis 3 would of been God walking in the other direction.

Dresses for orphans

Help us make “pillow case dresses” for orphan girls in Africa.

Because of the widespread AIDS pandemic, little girls are often left as the primary care-givers for their siblings and this is a simple way to show them that someone cares enough to make them a new dress. And in the process, this opens up avenues for sharing the hope that is found only in Jesus.

We are asking people to drop off a pillow case at Java Joe’s and in return we will give you $1.00 off your purchase (no purchase is necessary).

Who doesn’t have a pillow case to share? They are readily available and the hem is already in the material. Even a novice seamstress can be involved. If you have a sewing machine and would like to help sew dresses, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Meeting God

The Lord’s Supper is effective–it does something.

This is strange language to most of us.

We understand how we do something, take the bread and break it and the cup and drink it, but we may not see how God does anything.

We do not come to the table to learn something with our minds: we come to meet God. God and people meet here and something happens.

Here we touch eternity.

Here God gives love, forgiveness, acceptance and we receive love, forgiveness, and acceptance.

He acts, and we adore.

In prayer we go to God. In the Lord’s Supper he comes to us.

We are not learning something, or remembering something, but doing something–we are meeting God.

God’s eternal existence

This week, I have been reminded of one of the many fascinating things about the biblical text – it assumes God’s eternal existence.

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In the beginning God . . .

This statement does not refer to the beginning of God; it refers to the beginning of His creation.

There’s no starting place and stopping place to God. He has no beginning and has no end, yet He encircles our lives with His presence.
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By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible (Hebrews 11:3, ESV).

[/one_half]Then, God the Creator spoke “the heavens and the earth” into existence with absolute authority.

God created everything out of nothing, an act totally different from how people create from something that already exists.

People have clay; they make pots.

People have trees; they make houses.

People can only use what already exists.

God is not part of or dependent on the material universe; He is above and beyond it. Everything depends on His creative, sustaining Word.

Can we allow our faith to rest in God’s creative work as the foundation for His sovereignty in our lives?

The movement of God through salvation history

As follower’s of Jesus, our lives are larger than our own. We are part of the ongoing plan of God as he moves through history redeeming humanity. In order to understand where we fit in the overall scheme of God’s mission for the world, we are going to examine the overall plan of God throughout history.

God through Abraham chooses Israel to be the opening word in his plan for salvation.

⎯ Genesis 12:1-3
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Israel is chosen to be separate people for a time, in order to be a living example of the community of God.

⎯ Exodus 19:3-6
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Israel often turns away from its mission but through the prophets is reminded again and again of it’s true purpose.

⎯ Isaiah 26:6-9
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The prophets begin to speak of a coming servant who will bring salvation.

⎯ Isaiah 49:6
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Jesus begins his ministry by announcing the coming of the Kingdom. A New stage in history had arrived. The kingdom is here and available to all.

⎯ Mark 1:14-15
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Through Jesus’ death and resurrection, satan, sin, and death and their power are defeated and the gift of salvation is offered to all.

⎯ Romans 3:21-25
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Believers are commissioned to go and spread the good news of what Jesus has done and the arrival of the Kingdom to all of humanity.

⎯ Luke 24:44-49
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Jesus promises us the future coming of the Kingdom in its fullness.

⎯ Matthew 24:14; Revelation 22:1-5

For discussion:

      Of all the great cultures of the world, why do you think God chose Israel to be his messenger?
      How would you describe God’s strategy throughout history? Why do you think God did not just appear in the sky and tell everyone about his message?
      What is the “good news” for the culture in which we live?

People Groups in the Nashville area

Our friends are on the west coast this week on an About Asia Tour. One tweeted that there are over 240 languages spoken in the Los Angeles area.

This reminded me of the research that the Nashville Baptist Association conducted to identify the all the people groups in the Nashville area. Below is a list of 33 distinct groups of people living and working among us (and several distinct sub groups of groups). It is also safe to say that many (most?) of these groups do not have an evangelical presence among them.

Could God be calling you to work among one of these groups?

Has God called you to work among Muslims oversees? Why not start with the Iraqis, Kurdish, Egyptian, or Somalis living here?

Maybe God has called you to Southeast Asia. You can find several subgroups here, now.

Will you join us in praying for these people groups?

  1. Mexican
  2. Guatemalan
  3. Iraqi
  4. Kurdish
  5. Egyptian
  6. Somali
  7. Laotian
  8. Vietnamese
  9. Southeast Asian Indian: Several Sub groups
  10. Burmese: Several sub groups under this group
  11. Nepali/Bhutanese
  12. Salvadorian
  13. Japanese
  14. Korean
  15. Nigerian
  16. Honduras
  17. Russian
  18. Chinese
  19. Columbia
  20. Haitian
  21. Ukrainian
  22. Romanian
  23. Armenian
  24. Cambodian
  25. Filipino
  26. Bosnian
  27. Saudi Arabian
  28. German
  29. Congo and Interior of Africa
  30. Iranian
  31. Russian Jews
  32. Bantu
  33. Sudanese: 2 Sub groups

God’s global mission is all around you.